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The_Tigg

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LMP1 damaged, he lost his wing later.
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Dirt and damaged GTE
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GTE major damage
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Dirt and the side window!
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I just can't get over how much better this is then A.C., why aren't we using it?
 
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Nowhere in this post did you say which sim this is... x'D

(tho there is a clue on the side of C8)
 
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In my Steam is shows me which game these screenies came from...in case I didn't already know
 
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LOL!

I did a 50 lap race with 4 car classes. 27 total cars on track, DPi, LMP1, GTE and GT4. The only cars that didn't show damage were the GT4's. I'm not sure if it was because they didn't get into wrecks or not. A ton of fun to watch. LMP2 are slower then the GTE cars, that's why I went with LMP1's and the fact that LMP2 has some open cockpit cars. All I know is in no matter what car I drive with the AI at 95 and 50 aggression I'm 4 seconds slower then the AI. I need more seat time in that!


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LOL!

I did a 50 lap race with 4 car classes. 27 total cars on track, DPi, LMP1, GTE and GT4. The only cars that didn't show damage were the GT4's. I'm not sure if it was because they didn't get into wrecks or not. A ton of fun to watch. LMP2 are slower then the GTE cars, that's why I went with LMP1's and the fact that LMP2 has some open cockpit cars. All I know is in no matter what car I drive with the AI at 95 and 50 aggression I'm 4 seconds slower then the AI. I need more seat time in that!


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The Reiza P2 cars are probably closer to or even slower than FIA/ACO LMP3 cars. They are not FIA/ACO LMP2 cars but Brazilian P2 cars, which are a whole different beast, since the intent of the class was to represent the same class in the Imperio Endurance Brazil series, where the racing budgets are not nearly as high and they promote home grown ingenuity over mass produced high budget works teams. The P1 cars are probably around/between FIA/ACO LMP2/LMP3 speed.
 
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I just can't get over how much better this is then A.C., why aren't we using it?
From what I've gathered it still has some issues, mainly excessive low speed snap oversteer(though compared to launch it is MUCH better and more comparable to other titles, and what sim doesn't have issues aside from maybe GTR2) and most people still have lingering taste from PCars and the Madness engine. And those who were fans of AMS1 which was based on gMotor/rFactor technology prefer the feel of that sim.

Basically compared to it's predecessor it is a whole different beast. Drivers who are used to AC/R3E/RF2 can't gel with the handling quirks, fans of AMS1 feel that the driving feel is inferior to the older product, and many people still have a bad taste from PCars.

What it does do well is the same thing that PCars did well, that's immersion and ease of pickup, just with a smattering of unique and interesting Brazillian race cars(I wish they would lean more into that and the vintage stuff, rather than more modern GT/LMP). But you know how fickle simracers are.
 
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I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AS NICE AS POSSIBLE, GO DRIVE THE DAMNED THING AND STOP RELYING ON OTHER FOR YOUR OPINION AND USING THEIR WORDS TO JUDGE SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
 
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I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AS NICE AS POSSIBLE, GO DRIVE THE DAMNED THING AND STOP RELYING ON OTHER FOR YOUR OPINION AND USING THEIR WORDS TO JUDGE SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
I'm not saying they are MY opinions, but you asked why people are not running it, so I gave you a few of the many reasons why they don't. Please stop taking my words out of context.

Besides, I'm not close to good enough to make any guage on a sim myself, and likely never will be (hence why I don't race anymore, besides I got more important fish to fry)
 
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Back to point of this thread...

My AC has it, but it's called Automobilista 2...why don't we do AMS2? NO RIVERSIDE! Which by default means it is not a "real" sim
One of my gripes is the depth in many classes is lacking, with only 2-3 cars at best in most, when you often have atleast 5 notable options, and sometimes 4-7 more obscure ones. GR.A for example, only the BMW and Mercedes. No RS500, Skyline R32, or even staying with Germany/DTM, Audi A80?

The cars that are there are nice, but more variety within classes is needed. They just added the Corvette to the vintage sports car class, but only the Corvette and Porsche? C'Mon folks :/

Finally the biggest thing is I'm waiting for full custom championships and AI drivers/rosters, so I have better control of my races. Running pointless single races against drivers I have no connection/attachment to doesn't cut it.
 

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Is what I actually said. You chose to use this to beat on about things you don't like, I for one am sick of hearing it. Either make one yourself, join developer and do better.
I never said they were things I didn't like, you put those words in my mouth. I was describing what OTHERS didn't like, or reasons why. I don't have personal grudges against the sim, as I have so many damn sims I can barely play any of them enough to know the nuances anyways.
 

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Then you should keep that stuff to yourself UNTIL you take the time and form an opinion for yourself. The lesson I'm trying to teach you here is take that time you're using to read what everyone else is saying and get on the sim and learn for yourself.
 

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I never said they were things I didn't like, you put those words in my mouth. I was describing what OTHERS didn't like, or reasons why. I don't have personal grudges against the sim, as I have so many damn sims I can barely play any of them enough to know the nuances anyways.
Actually Ian by quoting them, YOU were putting those words in your mouth, does that make sense?
 
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