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Slipster17

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NOW POSTED FOR DOWNLOAD!!!!

 

rickmastfan67

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Did you get lucky and find the exact images, or did you recreate the characters from scratch? Otherwise, very sick for sure! :thumbsup:

On a side note however, I think you're showing them incorrectly on the Chevy model, not the Dodge model.
 

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Did you get lucky and find the exact images, or did you recreate the characters from scratch? Otherwise, very sick for sure! :thumbsup:

On a side note however, I think you're showing them incorrectly on the Chevy model, not the Dodge model.

Little bit of both - Mostly found the correct ones but some will require some extra effort. Like - flat colored versions of all of the graphics that appear on these cars are pretty readily available if you look for them. BUT they spruced those up with some high-diffused light and shading for the actual graphics on the cars. It's these fully shaded versions that require some extra searching. I have decent stuff to work with for 4 out of the 6 character graphics between the two cars - those other 2 I have in the flat-colored versions and may try mimicking the shading done on the others.

Done on the SnG 2003 Dodge. Might just be a wonky angle in carviewer.
 

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Done on the SnG 2003 Dodge. Might just be a wonky angle in carviewer.

It's just that bow out of the model underneath the headlights on your two screenshots that scream to me being the 'Chevy' or 'Pontiac' model. The original Dodge & Ford models don't have that. That's what I mentioned it.

I know other templates used other models later on, like Zone15's 2006 Ford (used Dodge) for the original Cup mod. Just was wondering if that was the case here. That's all.
 

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It's just that bow out of the model underneath the headlights on your two screenshots that scream to me being the 'Chevy' or 'Pontiac' model. The original Dodge & Ford models don't have that. That's what I mentioned it.

I know other templates used other models later on, like Zone15's 2006 Ford (used Dodge) for the original Cup mod. Just was wondering if that was the case here. That's all.

Completely different wireframe models. SnG's 03-05 cup mod uses their own templates and wireframes not the ones that original came with the game.
 

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When Dodge changed the nose in 2003 it had a bit of that kickout or shelf under the headlights similar to the gm cars at the time just more subtle. 2001 and 2002 the dodge nose was similar to the Ford nose and was more rounded although it did have that little kickout then it wasn't as noticeable and didn't come out as far as 2003. The 9 and 19 look great, awesome job as always!!!!
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When Dodge changed the nose in 2003 it had a bit of that kickout or shelf under the headlights similar to the gm cars at the time just more subtle. 2001 and 2002 the dodge nose was similar to the Ford nose and was more rounded although it did have that little kickout then it wasn't as noticeable and didn't come out as far as 2003. The 9 and 19 look great, awesome job as always!!!!
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The 03-04 Dodge was one of my favorites cars in that era. That and the 03-05 Monte Carlo.
 
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And my random discussion topic of the day........

What is the world was going on with the 2004 Dodge Intrepid / RTs used in NASCAR?

A thread on Reddit piqued my interest and while I never though about it at the time - it certainly begs an explanation. Dodge 'officially' branded their NASCAR model as an Intrepid between it's introduction in 2001 and 2003. And it looked like one with the headlight and taillight decals used. Even though they altered the placement of the grill openings in 2003 to roughly the same place they'd be in 2004 - they kept the same headlight and lower grill / foglight decals as 2003. My Bill Elliott car directly above is a 2003 model.

Then - for 2004 - they updated the headlight/ taillight decals and got rid of the lower grill and foglight decals. Made for a really sleek looking car! I just always assumed the Intrepid road car received a similar refresh towards the end of it's model cycle - but that is apparently where all of the conjecture comes in. The Intrepid road car received NO updates between 2001 and the time the model was discontinued during 2004. So, the Dodge model the 2004 NASCAR is based on isn't really the Intrepid - and it seems that Dodge never even really referred to the 2004 NASCAR model with any specified name, preferring to just call it the RTs?

The theory put forth seems to be that Dodge had intended to use the Stratus as a one-year stop gap between the Intrepid in 2003 and the switch to the Charger in 2005 - but that was vetoed for some reason by NASCAR? The grill placement and light decals would seem to support this idea as they do appear to be based on the blackout headlights used on the sportier Stratus RT model. But the overall body shape for the Dodges' seems almost exactly as it was for the 2003 Intrepid.

So - 2004 Dodge Stratus headlight / taillight decals on a 2003 Intrepid body shape but not really 'officially' called either?

Any more info from you guys? Thoughts?

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IIRC it was to do with aero on the nose. Dodge called it their 'Race Car' for that year... I think, lol.

Because what year/races did teams cut off the fronts of them and used the older noses? NASCAR allowed it, Dodge wasn't happy about it.
 
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IIRC it was to do with aero on the nose. Dodge called it their 'Race Car' for that year... I think, lol.

Because what year/races did teams cut off the fronts of them and used the older noses? NASCAR allowed it, Dodge wasn't happy about it.
If I recall that whole deal with the noses was more around 2005-2006, as late in the 2005 year some Dodge teams experimented with 04-spec noses instead of the Charger Noses at Homestead, and several, such as Petty and Penske stuck with them on the downforce tracks until Dodge told them to knock it off and run the Charger bodystyle.

The main issue with the first Charger nose was while the anteater shape was great for downforce in clean air, it also sucked trash into the grill easily, and wasn't as good in traffic if I recall. Hence why Dodge overhauled the nose in 2007, which has a profile more similar to the 2003-2004 spec nose.

Of course in 2007 Evernham then went back to the 2006 style nose, but that was more the fact that they had somehow lost all of their data on the new nose, and as such were forced back to the old nose, but of course since that "package" hadn't been actively developed since the end of the 2006 season, it further hindered the teams performance in 2007 and was one of many reasons that Evernham's season was such a "dud"

Petty also used the 2006 style nose starting mid-season as well, as they were aligned with Evernham, so made the switch around the same time.

Now on the subject of the 2004 nose conundrum, I'm not as certain, but I'm guessing since they had already planned on discontinuing the Intrepid, and the Stratus would follow soon after, as well as the Charger being another year out, they just slapped something together to run so their factory teams could still race in the transition..
 

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2004 was just a deal that the Intrepid was dropped from production and they just waited a year before they moved to the Charger. So, 2004 had the Stratus looking headlights and Intrepid Taillights, the grill setup was like the Stratus starting in 2003 as well so was just referred to by the Dodge R/T name since it was a combo of the two basically in a throw away year until the Charger was ready. Petty ran the 2004 style body in 2006 because the nose was similar to the Fusion and that is when Todd Parrott had come over to Petty Enterprises from Yates to crew chief the 43. So, with all the knowledge he had from the Fusion it translated over to the 2004 body better until Dodge stepped in and made them move to the 2006 Charger since they weren't in the business of selling older cars but new ones. The 05 and 06 Charger nose was pretty crap in traffic and was bad about picking up trash which played a part to the redesign in 2007. But the downforce wasn't as good with that nose, so teams went back to the old one again until once again Dodge tried to stop it, but teams still used it since the other one was at a disadvantage downforce wise if I remember correctly. And the whole redesign in 2007 was stupid since you had the COT car coming so a lot of the teams moved the focus over to it so another reason, they went back to the 2006 nose. Dodge was all over the place back then. They showed up at Daytona in 2001 without the upper grill between the headlights and had all kind of overheating problems so the teams had to add that grill which stayed like that until 2003 when they started using the Stratus like set up. While being an Intrepid it never actually had the name on the car and took on stuff from the Stratus until the Charger came along. Just a mess really. lol
 
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