Slip's Showroom (.....of DOOOOOM!)

[Slipster17]

Spent a while working out some of the tinier ones - especially on Ricky Rudd's B-pillar - and recreated a lot of these from scratch where period correct equivalents could not be found in vector format. really happy with the results! These all being from the Coca-Cola C2 cars at the 2004 Pepsi 400. From Top Left to Bottom R -> #1 Andretti, #29 Harvick, #98 Elliott, #99 Burton, #97 Busch, #21 Rudd, #20 Stewart, #16 Biffle.

 

[Slipster17]

Alright guys - I need to buckle down and stop kicking this '98 Motegi carset farther and farther into the future. I literally have like 4 cars that are holding me up and I'm just about at the point where I don't care if I find a better photo to recreate that one missing obscure logo anymore..... Part of me is mad that I won't be able to hit the level of accuracy that I want - and part of me understands that I've already gone so far above and beyond what has been done before that no other than me will even notice

 

[psugorilla]

I feel ya. Sometimes the digging up photos and resources gets all-consuming and it can wear ya down. And sometimes you simply can't find something because it doesn't exist out there anymore. I've been going back through my 94 rebuild and fixing some mistakes I made and finding variations I missed. Heck I thought I was gonna just have 2 versions of the 31 car but now I have 4. The 32 car will have like 8. I had to cap the 14 car at like 12 versions if I am ever going to finish the set. I still haven't started the 12 car because of how daunting it will be to track down all the umteen million logos that were on the car at different points in the season.

 

[CC#48]

Your work on these are top notch give your self a pat on the back. NR2k3 is still a great sim because of people like you.

 

[rickmastfan67]

Spent a while working out some of the tinier ones - especially on Ricky Rudd's B-pillar - and recreated a lot of these from scratch where period correct equivalents could not be found in vector format. really happy with the results! These all being from the Coca-Cola C2 cars at the 2004 Pepsi 400. From Top Left to Bottom R -> #1 Andretti, #29 Harvick, #98 Elliott, #99 Burton, #97 Busch, #21 Rudd, #20 Stewart, #16 Biffle.

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Nice job on these, however, got a question for ya.

Are you 'sure' that is the 'Ford Racing 100 Years' logo on the #21 Rudd B-Pillar? Pretty sure that the '100 Years' decal was only used for the 2001 Cup season. It just doesn't 'look' right to me to be honest.

When looking at the few photos on 'Motorsport.com' of Rudd's car from that event, it just doesn't look like what was run in 2001 (trust me, I've been doing some major research on that particular logo).

When looking in particular at the 'middle' photo of the 3 (hate that you can't directly link to photos on their site anymore), it honestly looks like to me it's 'U' something. Could that be a small "U.S. AIR FORCE" decal there instead?

Also, there was no white outline around the US flag on the #21 B-Pillar.

 

[Slipster17]

@rickmastfan67 - Not 1000% certain on the "Ford Racing - 100 Years" but it's the closest thing I can come up with based on the available material. 2001 was indeed Ford's 100th year celebration - but whether specifically in regards to Ford Motorsports or not, they definitely used the '100 Years' logo in NASCAR after 2001. Having a teeny US Airforce logo on the b-pillar doesn't make much sense for this particular car as the Air Force logo was always prominently featured on the lower portion of the hood and the rear quarter panel. If that was it on the b-pillar - it also doesn't have the accompanying 'winged star' that is part of that logo.

Overall I'm happy with leaving it as the '100 Years' logo unless some other truly earth shattering new material pops up from the Pepsi 400 - and with how much I've already scoured my resources for little bit I have I don't have much hope of that happening. The only little bit that still makes me second guess myself is the fact that for this race alone they seem to have inserted that second 'Racing' logo in there. So, instead of previous examples where one decal said "Ford (logo) 100 Years" and the other said "Team Ford (logo) Racing" the b-pillar from the Pepsi 400 has decals that say "Ford (logo) Racing 100 Years" and "Team Ford (logo) Racing". Seems a little odd - but wouldn't be the weirdest thing I've ever come across with regards to sponsorship decals.

 

[rickmastfan67]

@Slipster17 Only reason I suggested it was because of the several 'additional' associates added to the B-Pillar for that race. Would kinda make sense that the U.S. Air Force would be added as well.

Especially after you photos above that you posted, it makes way more sense that it has to be 'U.S. Air Force', or even possibly an entirely different sponsor. (I don't know why, but "US Microprint" is popping into my head, as I swear I recall some sponsor with that name back then in NASCAR.)

Why you ask? When you zoom in heavy on the picture I mentioned in my post above, you can clearly see it's an "U" there. There's no way it can be a '1' for 100 Years honestly.

Also, when looking at the C2 photo, there's another issue. That particular Ford Racing logo should be the the same width as the Motorcraft logo below it. The 'Racing' text lines up perfectly width wise as Motorcraft. So, if anything, that should honestly be adjusted.

 

[Slipster17]

@rickmastfan67 I still don't think the Air Force would run a decal without the winged star emblem - brand standards being what they are.

Our best bet to find a candidate is looking at what other associate sponsors Wood Brothers may have had during 2004. Nothing on the b-pillar that we can read didn't appear at other times during the year (the flag is just moved down off of the name rail, the Coke C2 is just used in place of the normal Coke rondelle, both Ford Racing and Team Ford appeared at different times...) so it doesn't make sense to throw a one off sponsor on there so small that no one even knows what it is.

Come to think of it - what are the chances that that little line of text ISN'T a sponsor unto itself but a bit if descriptive text for either the Ford Racing above or the Motorcraft below it? Think like "US Dealers" or something?

 

[rickmastfan67]

@Slipster17 Was looking around for #21 pictures for even the seasons around it, and I came across this attached 2003 photo. Seems that the 'U.S. Air Force' does use the full text version sometimes instead of just 'AIR FORCE' text with the logo.

The font does seem to be a match to the 2004 C2 car for the "U".

Also, I came across the Air Force's branding page. Seems like they 'do' allow just the text logo. Go down to the " For the Logotype (only) " section.

So, I'm now 99% sure that the logo is indeed the text for the "U. S. AIR FORCE" on the B-pillar for that race.

 

[Slipster17]

I'm literally dragging my own desiccated corpse across the finish line on this one.... oooof! WAAAAAY OVERDUE but almost ready!

All 31 competitors are done along with their driver suits. Just need to finish a few crews and do some final checks.

 

[psugorilla]

Knocked this set out of the park bud. Absolute genius work.

 

[Jon H]

As I said about the Suzuka sets, you are a painting god. Can't wait to check it out

 

[DaleTona]

Seeing all of the Winston West cars makes me want a Winston West set for Cup98. I tried starting one, but my skill in terms of identifying these old logos isn't there yet.

 

[Ackbarfan]

Seeing all of the Winston West cars makes me want a Winston West set for Cup98. I tried starting one, but my skill in terms of identifying these old logos isn't there yet.

I'd love for the 1994 season myself for personal reasons.

 

[Slipster17]

This screen grab has absolutely no business looking as good as it does.... NONE!

 

[Lastlap]

Just needs some open face helmets.

 

[Slipster17]

Just needs some open face helmets.

I gave Jr. and Sr. their open faces helmets - but I can't really confirm who else in this race may have run one, heh. Most Cup racers were wearing closed face by the end of '98 weren't they?

 

[Petty4345]

Jimmy Spencer is the only other one I remember still using the open face helmet at the time. Don't remember if he even was in that race honestly.

 

[Lastlap]

Jimmy Spencer is the only other one I remember still using the open face helmet at the time. Don't remember if he even was in that race honestly.

Spencer ran it during '02 IIRC. One of the last...

 

[Slipster17]

Just needs some open face helmets.