Early days in NR2003/Papyrus Racing Games, what were your experiences?
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Yeah, there were a 2 that were available with copies of Nascar Legends.
A Plymouth Superbird, #41.
and a Ford Torino Cobra, #75, which is likely the one you got.
To be honest I did not know till I got it again on eBay sometime back, has a sticker about it and like a Matchbox/Hot Wheels like car in it.
and Oh yeah, about forgot.
I got a Jimmy Johnson Blue Lowes 48
Peace!
NASCAR Racing 2003 Season was my first PC based racing game a few days after release, ya know, payday, I've bought older titles since then, but that was my first. Simply because I just got my first PC the month before, before that I was a Nintendo player.
Started with the keyboard for a week, got a game controller, then went on eBay a month later and bought a used Thrustmaster no force feedback wheel. 2 months later bought a Logitech Momo.
About 2 weeks after buying the game I went on-line to see if I could find the rest of the Dodge's and the real beer can cars, found the US Pit's, the rest is history.
About a week after I got my first wheel I started in the lobbies, then went looking for a league, found sim-racing.org and the rest is history.
I devoured all the information I could find and for the better part of the next 15 years that's all I played.
Started with the keyboard for a week, got a game controller, then went on eBay a month later and bought a used Thrustmaster no force feedback wheel. 2 months later bought a Logitech Momo.
About 2 weeks after buying the game I went on-line to see if I could find the rest of the Dodge's and the real beer can cars, found the US Pit's, the rest is history.
About a week after I got my first wheel I started in the lobbies, then went looking for a league, found sim-racing.org and the rest is history.
I devoured all the information I could find and for the better part of the next 15 years that's all I played.
I actually came online to look for some N4 cars, don't know what made me think something like that existed, I had no idea of the sim racing community's breadth and depth or that it even existed...went right out and bought NR2003 once I realized that there was more out there (in here?)
The worst thing on the original servers were the idiots that only joined a race to wreck people. You don't see much of that these days with everyone having private servers. Thank God..
First sim was NASCAR Legends and shortly after NASCAR 3 . They were great games and I always thought the AI did things in those games that the following versions missed. It was easier to adjust the AI as well. I wish those sims could've run at 60 fps but like GPL, capped at 36. Bought NR2003 next, about a year after it came out, brand new for 14.99. Bought and played many NASCAR sims after but NR2003 is still king. Still waiting for the elusive mid/late 70's mod but if I never see it, I've been spoiled by the embarrassment of riches given by the mod makers and painters.
To that end, the BR Gen 6 '15 Mod wears the noses and tails of late 70's cars quite well.
A common styling queue in the 1970s was the strip bar across the front; which housed both the grill and the headlights (single/dual). I've even found that it can wear something like the 1970s Datsun 240Z quite well.
Have a play with those things and then tell us what you think.
That's how I got here with the 1969 HG Monaro and the 1977 XC Falcon
Hmm found this: The Complete History of Racing Games
Needs to be called
Peace!
Needs to be called
The IN-Complete History of Racing Games - Not Complete...
No Papyrus games at all that I see. They really missed big time. Someone needs to clue em in, LOL.Peace!
I had always been a NASCAR fan as a kid, but had always been more of a casual fan, not watching all the races or learning the names of all the regulars. In 2001, there was a a big push by Fox and NASCAR to promote the Daytona 500, and so I had watched it most of the day, but ended up hanging out with some friends before it was over. It wasn't until later that night when I went home and found out that Earnhardt had died. Even though I was a casual fan, he had always been my favorite. After that I became more of a die hard fan. One day I was in a store with my parents (I was 15 at the time) and I found a game called NASCAR Racing 4. At the time we had just gotten a new computer with "hi-speed dial up." I think it took me about 6 minutes to download each car off of the pitwagon website back in the day.
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The Pitwagon was the place to get carsets early on. First site to have a full updated carset to use instead of the default cars.
Thanks to John Beatty, Kevin King & Crew.
Thanks to John Beatty, Kevin King & Crew.
Yeah the pitwagon was the number one place to go for better car's. I spent a ton of time at that site and the team lightspeed boards back then. I've been around on and off since nr4 although I had legends as well. Crazy after all these year's nr03 is still hanging around and easily the best 40 bucks I've ever spent! And yes when I started painting with nr4 I used the paint booth in the game. Thankfully those are long gone. Nothing of value was lost for sure. lol
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My dad had Indianapolis 500: The Simulation and I played that at first. I got Nascar Racing 2 in 1996 when it came out, got it in a school Scholastic book flyer (boy were my parents upset when they found out it was a video game). I played that for awhile until NR1999 Edition came out and I played that extensively. I got NR4 at some point but didn't play it much, but that is where I found you could download cars online. I eventually found NR2003 site including PWF in 2003, and from there I joined most of the popular sites (The Pits, The Pit Wagon, Masgrafx, TFR Detail Shop, RuRa, Team Lightspeed, etc). I first started racing online in 2004, and painting in 2005. Since then I have been pretty involved and painted for a number of sites including O'Racing, Masgrafx, 4 Wide race/Elite Paint Designs, and founded Ground Pounder Designs with JR Franklin in 2012.
Well lads, this will really carbon date me (LOL) but I treated myself on my 40th birthday in 1995 with a copy of N1.
(Do the math, you'll figure out at 66 I've been at this for 26 years.)
I remember how thrilled I was to buy a 486 computer and a Thrustmaster T1 wheel so I could really get into it.
Of course this was followed by N2, N99, N3, N4, NR2002, NR2003.
I already had Indycar Racing but have always been more of a stockcar fan. Used to run full season full length (500 miles) races in N2 and N3 at 97% AI.
I've won one offline championship in 1997.
Never bothered painting cars as there were so many great sites to fill my roster so I focused on improving my driving skills and puttered a little with the AI edits that I still do today. I'm still not a painter but I can at least create a few cars for personal use that please me.
I also did my own ABCD rating system for the carsets that really worked well. My weakness were qualifying and pitstops.
And yes I have always avoided the roadcourse tracks because for the life of me I cannot find decent setups. Interesting because I have always enjoyed these tracks in the Arcade style racing games. (Nigel Mansel or Al Unser come to mind)
As for other racing games; I've likely tried them all at some point or other. Some personal faves include Micromachines, Al Unser Indycar Racing; MarioKart with the kids, Nascar Sim Racing, Nascar Heat, Bill Elliot Nascar Challenge, TopGear, Need For Speed ...the list is endless. Just really enjoy auto racing.
I just bought my grandkids a 1/32 scale slotcar Scalextric Stock car set featuring 2 early 90's style Monte Carlo and a track that resembles Daytona. They're gonna love it! And my daughter got them a Nascar game for their Nintendo.
As you can see, the love of racing has been passed on to the next generation LOL
(Do the math, you'll figure out at 66 I've been at this for 26 years.)
I remember how thrilled I was to buy a 486 computer and a Thrustmaster T1 wheel so I could really get into it.
Of course this was followed by N2, N99, N3, N4, NR2002, NR2003.
I already had Indycar Racing but have always been more of a stockcar fan. Used to run full season full length (500 miles) races in N2 and N3 at 97% AI.
I've won one offline championship in 1997.
Never bothered painting cars as there were so many great sites to fill my roster so I focused on improving my driving skills and puttered a little with the AI edits that I still do today. I'm still not a painter but I can at least create a few cars for personal use that please me.
I also did my own ABCD rating system for the carsets that really worked well. My weakness were qualifying and pitstops.
And yes I have always avoided the roadcourse tracks because for the life of me I cannot find decent setups. Interesting because I have always enjoyed these tracks in the Arcade style racing games. (Nigel Mansel or Al Unser come to mind)
As for other racing games; I've likely tried them all at some point or other. Some personal faves include Micromachines, Al Unser Indycar Racing; MarioKart with the kids, Nascar Sim Racing, Nascar Heat, Bill Elliot Nascar Challenge, TopGear, Need For Speed ...the list is endless. Just really enjoy auto racing.
I just bought my grandkids a 1/32 scale slotcar Scalextric Stock car set featuring 2 early 90's style Monte Carlo and a track that resembles Daytona. They're gonna love it! And my daughter got them a Nascar game for their Nintendo.
As you can see, the love of racing has been passed on to the next generation LOL
I enjoyed them all (Papyrus): Indy 500, IndyCar Racing, IndyCar Racing 2 for OWR; NR1, NR2, NR 1999, NR3 & NLegends, NR2002 and NR2003. I love any of them but NR2003 is the absolutely milestone!
The only disadvantage of NR2003 is that you can't save a game while the race. I remember the time of NR3: I drove whole seasons with 100% length because you had the opportunity to save a race anytime you wanted. With NR2003 you may shorten the race because a crash can happen - it's running still fine on Windows 10 ... but nevertheless it's an older program.
The only disadvantage of NR2003 is that you can't save a game while the race. I remember the time of NR3: I drove whole seasons with 100% length because you had the opportunity to save a race anytime you wanted. With NR2003 you may shorten the race because a crash can happen - it's running still fine on Windows 10 ... but nevertheless it's an older program.
I hear you and I was doing the same thing. Back in the day my time was really limited so some nights I only had 30-40 mins to race and it was a great stress reliever to be able to continue a race for a while.
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