Dr. Noise Paints - New 1992 High Resolution Carset Progress

[rickmastfan67]

Also seems that the 'TOUGH ONE' & 'DELCO' (on the C-Pillar) fonts aren't correct either.

The 'G' in 'TOUGH' shouldn't have 'straight line' in the middle touching the other upright part of the G.

As for the 'DELCO', it seems you have the correct font on the rear of the car, just not the C-Pillar, or with the 'TOUGH ONE by DELCO' logo on the sides.

Otherwise, great job on the #17.

 

[Lastlap]

Weird, you look at something each time and never notice things... the EXXON on the #5 will need to be adjusted also.

@Dr. Noise Hope this helps. It's the artwork from Lionel Racing for the DW's '92 win:

 

[Dr. Noise]

You helpful dicks. lol. Here I was last night ready to move onto the 18 car, but nooooo. Part of the font issues on this were me simply tracing the decal sheet (which I found other things wrong with, but clearly not everything), so it's surprisingly inaccurate, just overall. I will fix the Exxon, change the font to the correct Delcos. I didn't entirely understand what was wrong the with trunk logo, but I also opted to just lift that one directly off the decal sheet. I didn't feel like it was worth doing a new vector for. If there's something slightly different about it, that one I'll probably just leave as is so I'm not doing this project for the next.... well, years. lol

I got updating the #5 on my list. I couldn't remember which car I had already put the Exxon on and was thinking to myself "I wonder if that one is wrong too."

Appreciate the help and eagle eyes, fellers. Also stop it. But don't. But stop it. But don't. <3 lol

**Edit: I think I see now the G on the quarters for the 'Tough' was the reference, not the trunk. So, I'd seen a couple renditions of the font on that. The one I traced should be accurate to at least one of the cars that year. At some point or another the 'tough one' font changed to a softer edged font versus the rather blocky version from earlier. I ended up tracing the blocky version. I will review my photos from Daytona & Indy. I have made that logo in the past with the softer edged font, but I'd prefer to use the blocky one if it's accurate to at least one version of the car over the year.

 

[Dr. Noise]

Weird, you look at something each time and never notice things... the EXXON on the #5 will need to be adjusted also.

@Dr. Noise Hope this helps. It's the artwork from Lionel Racing for the DW's '92 win:

Pretty sure both the Craftsman & Michigan 77 logos on this thing are wrong. Trust nothing! lol. Darrell's cars that year the Craftsman was always just the white lettering and I've never seen the Michigan logo from 1992 in the contig ever have anything but a solid blue background. I guess that could be a case of low quality images, but....I really don't think so. Pretty sure the softer edged 'Tough one' font is wrong for 1992, as well, looking back over my 1992 shots. They've all been the block edged font I'd used/traced.

 

[Lastlap]

Pretty sure both the Craftsman & Michigan 77 logos on this thing are wrong. Trust nothing! lol

Michigan 77 does have lines on the original decal, you just don't see it when resized or on most photos.

Here's my crude version:

I've never seen the Michigan logo from 1992 in the contig ever have anything but a solid blue background. I guess that could be a case of low quality images, but....I really don't think so.

 

[Dr. Noise]

Michigan 77 does have lines on the original decal, you just don't see it when resized or on most photos.

Here's my crude version:

well hell. Probably should vector out a new one, then. Especially for something that's on most cars. This I can do.

 

[mtblillie]

I noticed that working on 1989 cars. I think that the lines are so thin you don't see it unless you are up close

 

[rickmastfan67]

*Edit: I think I see now the G on the quarters for the 'Tough' was the reference, not the trunk. So, I'd seen a couple renditions of the font on that. The one I traced should be accurate to at least one of the cars that year. At some point or another the 'tough one' font changed to a softer edged font versus the rather blocky version from earlier. I ended up tracing the blocky version. I will review my photos from Daytona & Indy. I have made that logo in the past with the softer edged font, but I'd prefer to use the blocky one if it's accurate to at least one version of the car over the year.

Yep, was based on the sides. Lol.

 

[1979fan]

The contingencies are fun. When I was doing some field-fillers a few years ago, I noticed part-way thru 1992 the Gillette logo changed.

https://imgur.com/a/TSJCzLr

View: https://imgur.com/a/TSJCzLr

 

[rickmastfan67]

The contingencies are fun. When I was doing some field-fillers a few years ago, I noticed part-way thru 1992 the Gillette logo changed.

https://imgur.com/a/TSJCzLr

View: https://imgur.com/a/TSJCzLr

Just like how EA Sports changed theirs midway through the 2001 season I see. Then after the change, I bet it was a mix on which was used, right? I know in 2001 after EA changed theirs, it was around a 50/50 split as to which one was on all the cars till the end of the season.

 

[1979fan]

Just like how EA Sports changed theirs midway through the 2001 season I see. Then after the change, I bet it was a mix on which was used, right? I know in 2001 after EA changed theirs, it was around a 50/50 split as to which one was on all the cars till the end of the season.

Not to take over the thread, but what changed? I know it went from block to round in 2003 and then back to a block for a few years.

 

[Dr. Noise]

In case any of you fellow painters in here need it, here's the AI (Illustrator) file for the Michigan 77 contig. Thanks for the image to work with @Lastlap

 

[Dr. Noise]

There, Darrell's car, round 2! This should resolve all that was commented on. I primarily based the car on how it looked for the 1992 Indy tire test. This includes the correct 'delco' font (decal sheet was all wrong on those ones), correct all caps Exxon logo, and I also included the more accurate Michigan 77 contig (since that became a topic of interest in previous messages, too). With that, I'll mark in my notes to update all the Michigan77 contigs on previous cars, as well as updating the Ricky Rudd car's Exxon to the correct all caps version, as well. Bout time to move onto Dale Jarrett.

 

[rickmastfan67]

Not to take over the thread, but what changed? I know it went from block to round in 2003 and then back to a block for a few years.

The 'EA' logo itself changed. Here's the best photo evidence I can provide, which shows both, on 2 different cars. The #32 was the logo at the start of 2001 (and the version used in 2000 & 1999). The #26 is the one that was introduced about halfway thru the season. This is far as I'll go on this subject in this thread, as to not derail it any further.

 

[Dr. Noise]

If anyone is able to find a better photo of the 1992 car, I'd appreciate the assist. Having a hard time finding anything that will show me the quarter panel in front of the tire better. I've found a couple photos and it's clear it wasn't always the same in that area. But, I'd take any version at this point that can be found. Most of what is there is easy to identify, but not all of it. Below the Mobil 1 there's a few possibilities of what's down there. I do know that there's an AC (no spark plug), Competition Cams, Solder Seal Gunk, Total Seal, and then it's a bit iffy. MSD may be down there, Fel-Pro, etc. That's based on the decal sheet I have.

Everything else I've got, including the stuff behind the tire on the quarter. Just that one area is a small bit of a mystery.

Also, making the stripes over the fenders on this template is like trying to get a donkey to do... well... anything. But I'm getting there. lol

 

[rickmastfan67]

Would this one from 1993 help? Seems most of them are the same, just a little different order.

 

[CC#48]

Found this

 

[Dr. Noise]

Would this one from 1993 help? Seems most of them are the same, just a little different order.

I mean, kinda yes kinda no. I am mostly just wanting to try to match at least 1 version from 1992, but it seems they rearranged what was down there here and there. 1993 is close, but I can't really confirm anything for 92 from it. Also sometimes one contig is there/isn't there (as the variation with Joe Gibbs that @CC#48 shows). I don't need anything super crisp, just...anything from 1992 that gives me at least one confirmed arrangement.

 

[Dr. Noise]

If I had seen this image without context, I'd have assumed it was 1993 with the Shell contig, but this is from the All Star Race in 1992. I guess Shell joined them at some point in the season, which also pushed the NFL logos onto the hood. Well heck. I might have to do some diving into the videos. I kinda wish Jarrett had a better year, cause all his finishes in 92 were pretty average. Average doesn't get you on TV, Dale! lol

 

[psugorilla]

Also found this
View attachment 158381

This one is 1994 I think. The Fire & Ice and EDS is why I think that.