F-section limit?

[bearlythere12]

New track, already running into issues. I realize there's a f-section limit per section, was wondering if any of you have run into an overall limit for the entire track. Sandbox saves my work fine, but an immediate CTD when i try to open the track in-game. I'm basically stuck on one corner of the track, trying to mirror what you see in the pic, the phony road off on the right.

I'm basically running up to/near the limit on f-sections w/ every section, and this seems to be the logical problem. I've run up to the limit of 3dos before...many yrs ago...so this is where my head's at.

Or is there a limit on track surface decals? I've got quite a few of those, but my money is on f-sections. Or how about a limit on f-sections 'Mark as Euclidian'. I've got a ton of those too.

 

[Riviera71]

I haven't encountered that but if you have a lot of f-sections (and possible w-) set to Mark as Euclidian maybe one of them crosses an x-section somewhere?

 

[bearlythere12]

No w-sections yet. No x-sections in the area i'm talking about either. Head-scratcher for sure. Not the end of the world, i can certainly do something else in the corner but i've had my heart settled on doing this sort of track for many years...will defeat the purpose of the build if i gotta band-aid this one corner.

I'm worried i might be bumping up against a limit of some sort and i have yet to add all the sidewalks, track surface decals or even a pitlane. And if i can't get the look i'm going for i just might throw this one in the dumpster.

Thanks for taking a stab....

 

[Mystical]

Yes there is a limit on how many f sections a single segment can have, I don't remember the exact limit, I think its under 20 for sure. The best workaround is instead of using f sections for paint lines you can place mip decals down instead where possible.

 

[bearlythere12]

But that's why i'm confused...i'm not over the f-section limit in any segment. Sandbox always warns you anyway.

I appreciate your track decal workaround suggestion...but yeah...how do i break this gently...i've done this trick before. Sorry, i should've mentioned that originally.

I must be breaking a track surface decal or Euclidian limit, only thing that makes any sense. Hopefully someone else here can tell me what those limits are.

Thanks for hearing me out.

 

[Mystical]

So it sounds like your track CTD's in-game. It could be a wide range of issues if its not the F sections giving a warning in sandbox. I see those trucks on the track, whats the poly count on those? Are they a custom 3do model with no LODs or optimizations? If they are roughly over 1k verts that could easily crash the game.

 

[bearlythere12]

Track is bare-bones at the moment, other than a bunch of track decals, 6-7 lowpoly trees, that 2-way sign, and the blue pickups....i always use the blue Dodge Ram trucks as a size reference (they'll be deleted soon). You don't recognize them, eh? Original Papy fare, in the shared folder.

I *might* have found the culprit. Disconnected x-sections and a completely useless one, a "hangnail" of sorts. All this right in the corner of the track i've been having a problem with. Couldn't see it until i zoomed way in and looked under those f-sections.

But of course in a bit of anger i deleted and emptied my trash bin b/c i thought i was dealing with faulty ptfs. So i gotta rebuild the corner...for like the 20th time. Hopefully i solved it. I'll update this post if/when i move past my issue...might take a few days, the holidays-n-all.

Again, i appreciate the help.

edit 1/1/24 - Started building another track, will get back to this one eventually.