I just ran a session in the C8R. Awesome! Really like the "feel" and the sound is spot on, too. And yes, @Highbank , the C3R is really cool, too, but what a handful. Sadly, gearing is not setup for the C3r at Daytona (that's where I'm running everything for my own comparison), and can't be changed enough to work there. Run out of RPM way early on both front and back stretches.Seems John's vote was for PC3