Can anyone of you experts help me? I am updating the graphics for this track, almost done, but for some reason the cars get their tires, and then the just sit there. It's like they're serving a penalty or something. Tried everything, swapped lp's ,swapped track ini. Nothing works. I remember clermont had the same problem.
Montreal FSE pit problem
- Thread starter jamesst99
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july 2014
Re: Montreal 2012 FSE
Originally Posted by scrosson
I am having trouble with pitting on this track. It seems I get a penalty each time I enter the pit on this track. The AI cars also seem to have the same issue and the pole winner seems to have to pit continuously (obviously a penalty of some sort). Is any else having issues with pitting? I love the track!!! great work!!!!
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To eliminate the pit entry penalty:
[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = 6.20 ;was 24.00
pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 4140.00
pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = 24.00 ;was 6.20
pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 4140.00
I don't have any problem with the #1 pit (stall_0) receiving service or incurring a penalty.
I worked on this track a long time ago. I have no idea exactly what I did.
I have a track.ini with this note:
; gtp
; modified pit values for clean pitting
I had a catastophic failure of my desktop pc some years ago. I've transferred files to a new laptop. NR2003 works, but not this track for some reason.
I cannot get the track to run in the game or open in sandbox, so I have no way of checking what these values might do.
IDK if I've created a new ptf with corrected pit subsurfaces to accomodate the new extended pitstall layout. I have a track folder that seems to indicate that, but I'm not able to check it out. I also have new pit lp's, so I've had it working at some point.
For now, try the track.ini pit values below. It would seem the " +++++++ 's " probably indicate what's been changed.
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[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = -4.500
pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 7991.0
pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = -10.00
pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 7991.0
[ pit_lane_0 ]
; AI stuff
merge_from_pit_line_dlong = 220.00 ; (default)190.00 ; dlong at which cars leaving pits will merge to race line +++++++++++++++++++++++
merge_to_pit_line_dlong = 7550.00 ; (default)7960.00 ; dlong at which cars entering pits will merge to pit line +++++++++++++++++++++++
merge_to_pit_line_length = 250.00 ; (default)31.0 ; length of merge window +++++++++++++++++++++++
pit_lane_end_dlong = 154.00000 ; dlong where pit lane divider ends
pit_lane_start_dlong = 7991.0000 ; dlong where pit lane divider begins
slow_pit_line_dlat_offset = 3.5 ;5.5 ; track-specific dlat_offset of 2nd slower pit line (0 if N/A) +++++++++++++++++++++++
stall_exit_goal_dlong_offset = 2.00 ;8.0 ; goal dlong offset (ahead) for the pit stall exit cubic line +++++++++++++++++++++++
stall_exit_goal_dlat_offset = 6.00 ;5.0 ; goal dlat offset (+ left) for the pit stall exit cubic line +++++++++++++++++++++++
begin_stall_entry_offset = 10.00 ;15.0 ; offset at which to begin entering the pit stall +++++++++++++++++++++++
begin_stall_approach_offset = 10.00 ;25.0 ; offset at which to begin approaching the pit stall +++++++++++++++++++++++
lane_merge_dlong = 173.27 ; Dlong which you must remain on the apron when exiting the pits
; race control stuff
lane_on_right = 1 ; 0 if on left, 1 if on right
lane_has_wall = 0 ; 0 no wall, 1 has wall
speed_limit_MPH = 35.0 ; pit speed limit in mph
; pace car
begin_pacestall_entry_offset = 20.0 ; offset at which to begin entering the pit stall
begin_pacestall_approach_offset = 80.0 ; offset at which to begin approaching the pit stall
pacestall_exit_goal_dlong_offset = 8.0 ; goal dlong offset (ahead) for the pit stall exit
pacestall_exit_goal_dlat_offset = 2 ; goal dlat offset for the pit stall exit
stall_pace = 150.00 -10.70 0.00 ; (default)132.00 -8.40 -0.00 +++++++++++++++++++++++
; special stalls
stall_qual_exit = 6000.00 -0.50 -0.00
; default stalls are closer to Track CL, -10.50 provides room for 2 pit lp's +++++++++++++++++++++++
; default stalls are too close together, ai cannot exit cleanly +++++++++++++++++++++++
; regular stalls
stall_0 = 112.00 -10.50 -0.00
stall_1 = 103.73 -10.50 -0.00
stall_2 = 95.47 -10.50 0.00
stall_3 = 87.20 -10.50 0.00
stall_4 = 78.94 -10.50 0.00
stall_5 = 70.67 -10.50 0.00
stall_6 = 62.41 -10.50 -0.00
stall_7 = 54.14 -10.50 -0.00
stall_8 = 45.88 -10.50 -0.00
stall_9 = 37.61 -10.50 0.00
stall_10 = 29.35 -10.50 0.00
stall_11 = 21.08 -10.50 0.00
stall_12 = 12.81 -10.50 -0.00
stall_13 = 4.54 -10.50 0.00
stall_14 = 8069.34 -10.50 0.00
stall_15 = 8061.07 -10.50 0.00
stall_16 = 8052.80 -10.50 0.00
stall_17 = 8044.54 -10.50 0.0
stall_18 = 8036.27 -10.50 0.0
stall_19 = 8028.00 -10.50 -0.0
I have the same problem with Clermont not opening in sandbox so I can't check surface definitions around pit lane. What you could try is to turn the appruleenter points into comments.
Add a ; in front of those 5 lines so it looks like
;[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = -4.500
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 7991.0
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = -10.00
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 7991.0
and see what happens.
Add a ; in front of those 5 lines so it looks like
;[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = -4.500
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 7991.0
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = -10.00
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 7991.0
and see what happens.
It might make it impossible to clear black flags but it's the lesser of 2 evils 
Still strange that sandbox just closes when I try to open it, the .ptf does open in 3dsimed but as far as I know you can't see surface definitions in there.
Still strange that sandbox just closes when I try to open it, the .ptf does open in 3dsimed but as far as I know you can't see surface definitions in there.
Riviera said:
Add a ; in front of those 5 lines so it looks like
;[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = -4.500
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 7991.0
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = -10.00
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 7991.0
and see what happens.
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jamesst99 said:
That worked! Thanks guys!
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That makes me think the pit lp's are not properly located to have the ai go through the track.ini "entry gate".
Try these lp's.
Add a ; in front of those 5 lines so it looks like
;[ AppRuleEnterPits ]
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlat = -4.500
; pit0_entrance_point0_dlong = 7991.0
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlat = -10.00
; pit0_entrance_point1_dlong = 7991.0
and see what happens.
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jamesst99 said:
That worked! Thanks guys!
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That makes me think the pit lp's are not properly located to have the ai go through the track.ini "entry gate".
Try these lp's.
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