If you started your own Stock Car Series.....

[James Qualls]

If any of you had the money to start your own stock car series. what would you do?

I would do my series in 2 divisions.

Division 1 (basically the equivalent to the cup series) Gen 4 cars, 1995-2002 bodystyles, Chevrolet, Ford, Pontiac, and Dodge, V8 engines only, races can be about 250-300 miles.

Division 2 (basically the equivalent to the xfinity series) a mix of Gen 3 and Gen 4 cars, 1987-1994 bodystyles, Chevrolet, Ford, Pontiac, Chrysler, Oldsmobile, and Buick, Engine Option: you can run either a V8, or a V6, races can be about 150-200 miles.

You can race back to the line when the caution comes out. Old points system, no stages.

Tracks: Daytona, Talladega, Pocono, Michigan, Charlotte, Darlington, Bristol, Martinsville, North Wilkesboro, Richmond, Iowa, Lucas Oil IRP, Five Flags, Sonoma, and Watkins Glen.

 

[Rollo75]

The biggest problem is that we're rapidly running out of stock 'cars' as the SUVification of everything eats all else.

The Ford Fiesta is the latest to go, with Ford announcing that the Puma will now fill that spot worldwide.

Apart from that, if I was Grand Poohbah and Lord High Everything Else then there'd be 30 races on the schedule, with all being no longer than 300mph, save for Daytona, Talladega, Darlington and Charlotte.

Points would be:
20-17-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1, with 5-3-2-1 for the stages (and with no competition cautions), a point for leading a lap, one for the fastest lap and one for the pole.
Of course I realise that if you come 13th you're not getting any points at all but arguably, 13th is already mid-table mediocrity.

 

[The_Tigg]

I wouldn't. I'd buy an island and hide from the rest of the world...

 

[pomcat]

I would agree with using the old point system and no stages, but all cars have to be the same ones you can go to the showroom and buy. No competition cautions and no flags for non existent debris on the track.

 

[Rollo75]

but all cars have to be the same ones you can go to the showroom and buy.

Herein lies one of the great conundrums of the third decade of the 21st Century:


The NOT SUV or truck lineup in 'Muirca:

Ford - Mustang
Chevrolet - Spark, Malibu, Camaro, Corvette
Toyota - Prius, Corolla, Camry, Avalon, Mirai, 86, Supra
Dodge - Charger, Challenger

How do you equalise any of those? Some kind of Balance of Performance thing?

 

[ZiggyM]

For my dream series, I'd follow the 1970 NASCAR Rule Book - http://aerowarriors.com/rules/70nrS20-1.html but with modern safety equipment. 430 CID, 4 speed manual transmission, bias ply tires.

Tracks - Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, Willow Springs, Road America, Sears Point, Watkins Glen, Sebring, Daytona Road Course, Colorado National Speedway, Pikes Peak Hill Climb, Pikes Peak International Raceway, High Plains Raceway, Nürburgring, Monza, Le Mans Sarthe, Michigan, Darlington, Nashville Fairgrounds, Ona, Pocono, Milwaukee, DuQuoin, Springfield, Bowman Gray, South Boston, Santa Maria Speedway, Langley, Hickory, Charlotte, Daytona and Talladega.

 

[Rollo75]

For my dream series, I'd follow the 1970 NASCAR Rule Book - http://aerowarriors.com/rules/70nrS20-1.html but with modern safety equipment. 430 CID, 4 speed manual transmission, bias ply tires.

Even now, GM and Ford will built a 427 crate motor and Mopar has a 426; so the idea is not all that daft.

 

[Camo Creative]

2 divisions
Division 1 (equivalent of the cup series): Any supercar, no modifications allowed

Division 2 (equivalent of the xfinity series): a smorgasbord of cars, only 40 spots per race. There is a race of all the cars the entered for the 40 spots in the race.

Division 3 (equivalent of the cws): Strictly convertible cars

You can race back to the line when caution comes out. No stages. No governing body interference unless it jeopardizes the continuation of the race. Current points system (- stages)

This would be really fun to see

 

[Rollo75]

2 divisions
Division 1 (equivalent of the cup series): Any supercar, no modifications allowed

Any supercar? What does this mean?
Generic supercar could be anything but Supercar ™ is (was) a Group 3A 5L V8 car which had a multitude of changes and includes grandfathered Group A cars going back to 1985.

 

[Camo Creative]

Any supercar? What does this mean?
Generic supercar could be anything but Supercar ™ is (was) a Group 3A 5L V8 car which had a multitude of changes and includes grandfathered Group A cars going back to 1985.

I’m not the smartest when it comes to things like this so. Yes. I was just thinking it would be fun to see like, the street legal multi-million dollar cars like Bugattis etc.

 

[Rollo75]

GT3 ?

 

[Bitbreaker]

You can dream whatyou want, but with all your imagination you never will any manufacture to drive in your league... it's just outdated.

 

[James Qualls]

unfortunately, that is true

 

[mtblillie]

I always thought the idea of having an international exhibition series like IROC was cool. SRX is sort of the modern version but it is basically a dirt/short track only version, I liked how IROC had a variety of tracks and more inclusion with drivers from different types of series.

I also toyed with the idea for a fictional league that had sub series that were exclusive to short tracks, road racing, superspeedways, etc (though a superspeedway series is easier when there are fictional tracks to compliment the 2-5 real ones, depending on your definition).

 

[Andle]

Sub-series for suvs… I hate suvs, but it would be interesting to see how each manufacturer would design their car

 

[DaleTona]

Sub-series for suvs… I hate suvs, but it would be interesting to see how each manufacturer would design their car

Suprised NASCAR hasn't jumped on that yet. Seems like a no-brainer idea to atleast give a whirl.

 

[Rollo75]

SUVs are raced in the Dakar.
Ford races the Puma in the WRC.

 

[Jonny683]

90's Cup
Races in the US and Canada
Exhibitions in Europe, Asia, and Australia

 

[Rollo75]

I have thought about this further.

I'd have cars which are wheelbase 105' x width 68' - running exactly 600bhp measured just at the input before the gearbox.
I do not car how you get to 600bhp. Engines would be formula libre in that respect.

Want a 5.8L V8? Fine.
Rotary? Fine.
Small jet engine? Fine.
2.0L Turbo i-4? Fine.
1.6L Turbo V6? Fine.

I think that the crush forces and constraints developed for Gen-6 were just about perfect for stock car racing.

I'd have a mandate of a minimum ride height of 4 inches. Cars are too aero dependent.

Tyres would be way skinnier than they are now as well.

 

[mrsir1995]

Not really sure what the bodies would be...probably Gen 3 or 4 with the standard engine formula.

As for the schedule, 30 races, but each race is a different track, as in, no going to say Daytona or Charlotte twice a year, each track is one and done for the season.


Points would be a rigid system like one I developed for my offline league, awarding points to the top 20 finishers on a scale of 50-40-35-30-27-24-21-18-15-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, with no bonus points for leading laps or anything like that. No stages either, and no playoffs. The Champion is whoever has the absolute most points at the end of the season, period.