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Cola83

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Does Silly Season include who takes Jeff Gordon's place in the booth? Now the he is going to be 2nd in charge at Hendrick...

I don't think Jr. can do double duty, I'm not sure who unless they put Larry McReynolds back in the booth, which I think he is very good at..
 

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No.
I hope it's nobody.

I think that Joy/Bowyer as a pair would work well. Joy as play-by-play and Bowyer as colour, I think would breathe more.

Bowyer and Gordon just fall over each other.
 

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As for the Trackhouse charter, it was leased from Spire. They would've had to find a new charter regardless on whether or not Spire sold it. It's not like there was a long-term agreement on the charter like Petty-Ware. Maybe Ware could focus on one or two cars and sell or lease his other charters, allowing Trackhouse to use one, or they could use the Petty charter.
 
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Speaking of Trackhouse, they just bought the NASCAR operation from Chip Ganassi Racing (see below):

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Chip Ganassi sold his NASCAR team to Justin Marks, owner of Trackhouse Racing, and will pull out of the nation’s top stock car series at the end of this season.

Ganassi fields two cars in the Cup Series but will transfer his North Carolina race shop and all its assets to Marks for 2022.

“He made me a great offer that required my attention,” Ganassi told The Associated Press.

“I’m not out of racing, I’m just out of NASCAR,” Ganassi said. “I still have an IndyCar team. I still have an IMSA sports car team. I still have a Formula E team. I had an offer that I was required to consider.”

The sale was announced at the NASCAR Hall of Fame, where Ganassi said “if I was trying to sell my team, I would have talked to everybody that was looking for a charter or looking for a team or looking to get involved in the sport. I did not. I talked to one person.”

Marks said Trackhouse next year will field two cars, one for Daniel Suarez and one for a driver to be named later.

“It is humbling to know we have secured our position in NASCAR for the next decade. These are never decisions made without a lot of thorough consideration and deep reflection by both parties,” Marks said. “Chip has built an iconic motorsports empire and the Ganassi brand is globally recognized as a winner in the auto racing industry. It is truly an honor that we can build from that foundation.”

Ganassi has been a fixture in motorsports for nearly 40 years dating to his driving days when he qualified for the Indianapolis 500 in 1982.

Chip Ganassi Racing began as an open-wheel team that grew into one of the most successful organizations in IndyCar. The Pittsburgh-based owner expanded into NASCAR in 2001 and has fielded at least two cars every season since.

Ganassi won the Daytona 500 and the Brickyard 400, two of the biggest races in NASCAR, with Jamie McMurray in 2010. He currently fields a pair of Chevrolets for Kurt Busch and Ross Chastain.

Ganassi’s IndyCar team is a four-car program that features six-time series champion Scott Dixon and current points leader Alex Palou. He will run his organization from its Indianapolis shop next season; the Concord shop will transfer to Marks.

Overall, his teams have 19 championships and more than 230 victories including four in 2021. His win total also includes four Indianapolis 500s, eight Rolex 24 At Daytonas, the 12 Hours of Sebring and 24 Hours of Le Mans. Ganassi’s corporate office in Pittsburgh.

Marks is in his first season as owner of new team Trackhouse Racing, which counts entertainer Pitbull as a co-owner. The team leased a charter this year from Spire Motorsports to run Suarez but Marks had been unable finalize a deal to purchase NASCAR’s equivalent of a franchise.

Marks has said he lost out on three charters last year as he was building Trackhouse and has balked at paying the current eight-figure asking price for one in a red-hot market.

He instead bought an entire organization in a deal that includes both of Ganassi’s charters. Terms were not disclosed and Marks told AP he was “under a very strict” non-disclosure agreement that prevented him from discussing any details.

“This acquisition provides Trackhouse a platform for years to come, enabling us to field multiple teams, elevate our on-track performance, deliver great value for our sponsors and partners, build lasting community impact programs and continue to grow our brand beyond the sports conversation,” Marks said.

Marks has said he not only wanted to expand one-car Trackhouse into a two-car team, but also move the organization to Nashville, Tennessee, by 2023 and operate from the heart of Music City’s entertainment district.

SOURCE: https://apnews.com/article/auto-racing-nascar-sports-c85a9d975bfc2c8c8220dd6488a10dbc
 
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I saw that, and man, this is unexpected. Trackhouse's first year and they buy a long-established team. Suárez is staying, and the team will use two cars (hopefully Chastain stays and Busch goes to 23XI). Ironic that Ty Norris has a key role for a team that owns the remains of DEI (which he spent some years helping build), and that Justin Marks wins one race for CGR in Xfinity and takes over the team five years later.
 
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Ross better not get screwed over again lol. It took years for me to get a favorite Cup driver again after Gordon retired. Smh
 

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No.
If I was Trackhouse, I'd keep Chastain for some degree of continuity. Kurt was already looking for an out.
Also, Kurt is quite a knobhead who has been fired from everywhere he's gone.

I'd also change the number to 98. 42 is a legacy piece which makes less than zero sense now.
 

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I think Kurt in gone to 23xl and Ross will join Suárez who has already been name 1 of their drivers. :)
 

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Because of charter costs, I take it. This is why the charter system was not thought through all the way. Teams that clearly have no interest in actually competing (such as Ware and StarCom) are hoarding a few charters from teams that actually need it and do want to be competitive (JRM, GMS, 23XI's second car), artificially raising their value. Front Row acquired the BK charter for less value than what Ware wants. Does he expect teams to accept charters for way more than they're actually worth? Meanwhile, we have Dale Jr., the most popular driver for 15 consecutive years and who's still very involved in NASCAR through NBC and his team, who wants to go to Cup but can't all because of a couple teams profiting off their charters. While he can buy others, he still doesn't want to pay a value he could use to buy more charters than just two. Even if Ware goes bottom-3 in points, he shuffles his charters around to prevent that. Unfortunately it can't be changed until 2025 or if a new manufacturer comes. Apologies for the rant, but I'm just so peeved at this.
 

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Unfortunately it can't be changed until 2025 or if a new manufacturer comes. Apologies for the rant, but I'm just so peeved at this.
Based on comments made by Denny Hamlin regarding the 23XI car, it may not be as bleak as this. He seemed to indicate a possible rewriting of the rules for 2023 which would abolish them. That said it would make Matt Kaulig look like an idiot...
 

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I just hope Hamlin's right. If so, then Rick Ware's little four-car empire will fall to one or two.
 

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No.
I just hope Hamlin's right. If so, then Rick Ware's little four-car empire will fall to one or two.

From a business perspective, Rick Ware is a demi-genius.
He's bought assets in the hope that they are worth something. They are essentially the same as Taxi Plates.

I however wish that he'd either embrace a privateer ethic properly or at least narrow his efforts to put up a fight.
I like privateers.
 
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No.
It would appear that one of the magical powers of having a charter is that you get priority access to currently homologated bits.
As NASCAR is under some kind of mutual obligation to the chartered teams, those teams look like they have the ability to jump the queue for chassis as they get built.
Which means a team like Rick Ware Racing can get a chassis before an uncharted team. That might also be true for components under the skin as well.
 

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It would appear that one of the magical powers of having a charter is that you get priority access to currently homologated bits.
As NASCAR is under some kind of mutual obligation to the chartered teams, those teams look like they have the ability to jump the queue for chassis as they get built.
Which means a team like Rick Ware Racing can get a chassis before an uncharted team. That might also be true for components under the skin as well.
Question: what about JTG Daugherty, assuming they hold their charter into 2022? Do they get one car, then another car, or is the 37 supplied as a chartered car given that the 47 is chartered? I suppose 23XI could be in the same arrangement
 

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No.
As I understand it (asterisks all the way down + wild mass speculation) the "teams" will be limited to 12 active chassis per season. By "team" I am assuming that's 3 chassis to be initially supplied per charter.
That means 12 for Joe Gibbs and Stewart-Hass, 9 for Penske, 6 for Trackhouse and Childress, 3 for JTG Daugherty.

By my calculations, that's 108 chassis to be delivered by Dec.
 
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Because of charter costs, I take it. This is why the charter system was not thought through all the way. Teams that clearly have no interest in actually competing (such as Ware and StarCom) are hoarding a few charters from teams that actually need it and do want to be competitive (JRM, GMS, 23XI's second car), artificially raising their value. Front Row acquired the BK charter for less value than what Ware wants. Does he expect teams to accept charters for way more than they're actually worth? Meanwhile, we have Dale Jr., the most popular driver for 15 consecutive years and who's still very involved in NASCAR through NBC and his team, who wants to go to Cup but can't all because of a couple teams profiting off their charters. While he can buy others, he still doesn't want to pay a value he could use to buy more charters than just two. Even if Ware goes bottom-3 in points, he shuffles his charters around to prevent that. Unfortunately it can't be changed until 2025 or if a new manufacturer comes. Apologies for the rant, but I'm just so peeved at this.
Therein lies one of the fatal flaws of the charter system and why it is nothing but a joke that's done absolutely nothing but tear the sport apart further. Hands down the #1 biggest mistake NASCAR has ever made.
Why should a team that want's to move up such as Jr Motorsports be forced into such a position?
Teams are falling off like insects on the bug zapper because they can't stay afloat. When the charters were started it was literally telling the small teams that they weren't welcome anymore. And further exacerbated by Nascar's decision to cut the payout to the un-chartered teams and distribute it among the chartered cars. And they wonder why they had to cut the field size??? Why they can't typically fill a 40 car field, let alone a 43 car field?

The whole idea was to guarantee some equity in the teams should an owner decide to get out. I'm sorry but that's complete BS! They had equity already. If Joe Gibbs decided tomorrow to pull out of Nascar, don't you think teams would be scrambling to purchase their equipment? Cars, Pit Gear, Haulers etc.
There's your equity.

Look back at 1997. Look how many teams moved up from Busch or started anew. That kind of influx ain't happening anymore. When Bill Davis shut down and a bunch of people bought up their toyotas what did we see? Mayfield, Parsons, Baldwin, Gunselman and others. And all of them had opportunity to break into the field. Going back to 97 and pretty much the entire history of Nascar prior to the 2nd worst decision ever in the original Top 35 rule, Every car in Daytona had an equal playing field of opportunity to make the 500. Qualify on the front row, Finish 14th or higher in your duel, Next fasted qualifiers and provisionals. New teams could get in over established teams because they came in more prepared and faster or had better luck in their duel. At the end of the day it was fair. Now, we can have a car finish 3rd in duel 1 and still DNQ Now we can have a car finish 2nd in duel 2 and DNQ
 

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