IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (B.A.T. mod)

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ZiggyM

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Double Ace!
Technically, since I'm playing 1916... ;-)

From Smithsonian Magazine -
Raymond Toliver and Trevor Constable's 1965 book, Fighter Aces, notes that although the British, like the Americans, never officially accepted the term, "The British, French and Germans set ten confirmed aerial victories as the standard qualification for an ace.... When American air units had still not gone into action at the beginning of 1918, the likelihood of any American pilot scoring ten kills before Germany's collapse seemed remote. Accordingly, it was decided to reduce the American qualification for an ace to five aerial victories....The same standard of five now applies generally throughout the world."
 

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That is interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder if it will eventually get reduced again due to how rare air to air engagements are. Getting a kill is technically easier with modern technology, especially since most adversaries are using older less advanced tech, but air suppression is much cheaper and more effective than using fighters to kill other aircraft. The last engagement that I can think of that resulted in a confirmed air to air victory was during the Kosovo war in 1999.
Also, rules in WWI for getting confirmed kills were kind of weird. I remember reading that at least for Germany, the enemy aircraft had to be downed in German territory to confirm the kill. By WWII they were using various witnesses along with gun camera footage to confirm kills, which was much easier. Even so, there tended to be a lot more claims than actual victories.
 
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That is interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder if it will eventually get reduced again due to how rare air to air engagements are. Getting a kill is technically easier with modern technology, especially since most adversaries are using older less advanced tech, but air suppression is much cheaper and more effective than using fighters to kill other aircraft. The last engagement that I can think of that resulted in a confirmed air to air victory was during the Kosovo war in 1999.
Also, rules in WWI for getting confirmed kills were kind of weird. I remember reading that at least for Germany, the enemy aircraft had to be downed in German territory to confirm the kill. By WWII they were using various witnesses along with gun camera footage to confirm kills, which was much easier. Even so, there tended to be a lot more claims than actual victories.
Yes! There were different rules for different countries in WWI. I remember reading "Fighter Aces" when I was a kid and how German pilots would land next to a "kill" to take a gun or a piece of the aeroplane back to base to prove they had shot it down, due to the 'rules' of having to confirm the kill. France too, I think, required the 'kill' to be over friendly territory to count.
I, for a long time, thought 10 was "Ace" status until I read about Randall "Duke" Cunningham and Willian "Irish" Driscoll getting their 5th in Viet Nam and becoming the first Navy "Aces" of the conflict. As the story went back then, they were "Ace in a Day" and I remember wondering how they managed to get 10 with a loadout of 4Hx4R, but read deeper to discover they had both already had 2 'kills' before the day they got 3, 4 and 5. In my mind, 10 was still an "Ace" for the longest time (Funny how kids remember stuff and how long it holds).
 

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Sorry for the divergence here, but I've always wanted to run a series of Flying Tiger combat... me in a P40 against the Japs over China...fun
 
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View attachment 2324oVerdun.mov
December 18, 1916 - Clermont Aerodrome - Bomber Escort
Mission #11 of 11 - "Flyboys" - https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,55130.0.html
Downed 2 Hun 2-seaters to bring total to 24.

End of Verdun campaign
If you land and 'jump' from your aircraft, it will count as losing the aeroplane. Sometimes I would 'esc' while still on the 'runway' and it would count as losing the aeroplane. Once I noticed that, I tried my best to park near my tent (the empty one).
There are times when you'll down an aeroplane and it will hit the deck but not be destroyed and you won't get credit. Same, sometimes, if you down it into the river. After landing, hit the time advance for a while to see if you get credit for anything that might still be coming down or on the deck.
The campaign needs more ground fire. There are times I was flying over Hun territory and taking no ground fire, even while taking out balloons. Balloons do NOT count as kills, but instead count as ground targets and they go up with very few hits. They could be made a bit more durable and can use some AA around them.
Home aerodrome could use some AA as well since on the last mission, I used all my ammo on the 2-seaters (extremely durable and didn't notice I'd hit the pilot early), landed back at my aerodrome and Hun fighters were buzzing the place while everyone sat around lounging.
The Nieuport allows the use of a throttle, unlike the real Gnome rotary, so I set the '0' to 100% and the '9' to 0% to simulate the 'blip button' (either on or off).
 
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Well, there are so many to choose from, I can see why you are still thinking about it. I don't have any specific requests, but if it helps you narrow an idea, I have been reading a lot about carrier battles in the Pacific Theater of WWII lately. I took a gander to see there were some various campaigns that related to that genre. @Highbank, do you have any ideas?
 
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Well, there are so many to choose from, I can see why you are still thinking about it. I don't have any specific requests, but if it helps you narrow an idea, I have been reading a lot about carrier battles in the Pacific Theater of WWII lately. I took a gander to see there were some various campaigns that related to that genre. @Highbank, do you have any ideas?
1942: The Pacific Air War comes to mind, you'd have to find a download for that one...it's a great sim, just old

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as I recall Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 2 has a very nice Pacific theater in it...
 

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