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720 vs 1080 LED TV for gaming?

Discussion in 'Computer Specifications' started by M_Nesevitch, May 25, 2018.

  1. M_Nesevitch

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    Anyone know if you can tell a big difference between a 720P LED TV, -vs- a 1080P LED TV when using it as a gaming/racing monitor?? Im looking at 32" LED TV as a monitor for my old, low budget gaming rig.. Looks like I can get a cheap brand 720P for around $90 and the same/similar 1080P for around $130. Worth the extra for 1080P? (Note, this is basically just to play NR2003, rFactor, maybe iRacing..)

    The other parts I have are an Intel i5 2400, 8GB Ram and a Gigabyte GeForce GT1030 2GB 64bit DDR4 video card.
     
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    I have a 32 inch 720, as long as your video card supports it I see no need for the 1080. I'd go for the TLC Roku TV, that way you get all those goodies too.
     
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  3. NKnight

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    1080 is higher resolution. It's what I am using. I have a 40" screen.
     
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  4. M_Nesevitch

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    Well, everything is here.. Plugged it all in, turned it all on, only 196 updates to go! :confounded:
     
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  6. Highbank

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    I stole his Tigg-Thunder...
     
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  7. M_Nesevitch

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    Sooo.. When I was scanning Ebay for the PC and GPU, I came across this little piece of candy. sound.jpg
    A) Cause I have a sub woofer and surround sound speakers for the PC that I didn't throw away and the integrated sound on the mb isn't worth a crap.. But B) also in the package, you see that little old ancient looking thingy on the end? Gots 15 little holes in it? Well, just so happens I've got a little somethin on the bottom shelf that has 15 little pins on it!! IMG_20180530_171543.jpg That's a custom built TSW original, or AKA "comfortable pair of shoes".. `6`I may just have to plug ol' faithful in and really turn some hot laps! `9`lol
     
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  8. Highbank

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    All I hear is saying is...wait let me say it this way:
    In 1967, in the Trans Am Series, Roger Penske Racing campaigned a slightly famous blue Camaro with one Mark Donohue driving it...the car which to meet SCCA Trans Am rules had to be a pretty much stock Chevrolet Camaro with the exception of a racing engine, a roll cage, and the bumpers could be removed as well as the back seat. Also you had to have a racing rated fuel tank and you could use a racing fuel filler system. Other than that it was to be a normal showroom stock Camaro. Well Mr Penske realized he could put a taller rear spoiler on the back of the car and no one would notice...which they didn't...until the car was wrecked and the next car was more carefully inspected. In short, Roger Penske cheated.

    You sir, are Roger Penske....in a fashion...
     
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    ...just kidding of course...except about Penske, he cheated...
     
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  10. BL Modding Group

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    Good luck with that as no current OS supports the gameport and drivers are pretty non existant for anything newer then Windows XP. Your better off with one of those USB Nest adapters.

    Also don't even think of running anything higher then a resolution of 720 on a GT 1030 unless you like turning down pretty much all your details. Hopefully you bought the original GDDR5 version and not the newer gimped GDDR4 version. Good luck with your new hardware.

    Edit: Serves me right for going online after midnight. I see you have the GDDR4 gimped version of the Gt 1030 so stick with 720 LCD TV variation. Just make sure it has a quick response time or you'll get ghosting.
     
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    Nooooooo…. Win 7 doesn't support the gameport?? `23``1`lol I've got WinXP too. Might have to make a separate install just for that!
    As for the GPU.. Just gonna have to cross my fingers. Can only install what you can afford.. And 720P is about all Im capable of seeing anyway.. At 50 years young, the eyes are one of the 1st things to go! Just after the hair.. :tiredface: x'Dx'D
     
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  12. BL Modding Group

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    The GDDR4 version of the GT 1030 is just over 1/2 the performance gaming wise compared to the original GDDR5 version which is only a little more cost wise. Check out some videos by Tech by Matt and RandomGamingHD to see how the two compare. I'd see if you could return it.
     
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  13. M_Nesevitch

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    Well, the system is fine for hot lapping and most game play.. Assetto Corsa is the frame rate hog, of the games I play, but just running hot laps It's been fine.. I just have to turn some of the reflection and smoke settings down. Where I have trouble is when I introduce FRAPS into the mix, to do a replay video.. Something seems to bottleneck.. It'll be fine, running around 60fps, then will dip to 10-12 for a second, then go back to 60?? You think this is the video card or something else? And if so, what kind of (just guess) improvement, if any, would I see if I upgraded to a GTX 1050ti?? (Needs to be the GTX1050ti due to my limited power supply on the Dell tower.. 275W and no extra plugs for fans, power, etc.) Im also going to put in another 8gb of ram..
     
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    You will see a BIG difference in the GTX 1050 Ti over the GT 1030. Especially that gimped DDR4 Ram version. What was Nvidia thinking pulling that garbage. I've installed over 10 GTX 1050,s (not the Ti version) in various older Dell office machines (because of the lower watt PSU) and they make fantastic budget gaming rigs. The lower 2 GB Ram amount on the GTX 1050 only becomes a hindrance when your running higher resolutions and HD textures. If your only running at 720p or 1366x768 on the TV then that 2GB will be fine if your wanting to save some money and go for the non Ti version.

    For example. The GTX 1050 (non Ti) in a Dell Optiplex with an i5-3470 and 8GB of DDR3 -1600 Ram can run Project Cars 2 smooth at a locked constant 50 fps @ 1440x900 with a mix of low to high graphical settings in the rain starting at the back of a 20 car field while in cockpit view. Assetto Corsa runs even better and the older SimBin titles can have everything at max, plus all the extra graphical tweaks a program like Nvidia Inspector can apply to the older DX9 games. Then there are the Codemasters GRID and DiRT games. Ultra settings with 4xAA to 8xAA and not dropping below 60fps depending on the title.

    What are you current PC specs Mick.
     
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  15. M_Nesevitch

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    Dell OptiPlex 790 Mini Tower. i5-2400 3.10GHz, 8gb DDR3 1333MHz, GT1030 with a 32" 720P LED TV
     
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  16. BL Modding Group

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    I've upgraded a few of the older Opti 790's. Installing another 8GB of Ram will not improve the performance of your games. It will allow you to run more tasks at one time and give your system a boost when video editing or 3D rendering but it does not directly affect game performance.

    For your system I would just install one of those single fan full height GTX 1050's. The current price to performance of the GTX 1050 to GTX 1050Ti is not worth it at current prices, unless you can get the Ti on sale. $50+ US more on average for a Ti over the Basic version for maybe 15% - 20% more performance in some games, no thanks.

    I went to the US Newegg site and as an example they have an EVGA GTX 1050 SC Gaming 2GB for $139.99 plus $4.99 shipping or the 4GB Ti version of the same card for $199.99 plus $4.99 shipping. I'd rather put that $60 towards an SSD or even a new 350 - 400 Watt PSU just to give the system some breathing room for an extra HDD and or an extra fan or two.

    Those are just my opinions. In the end it's your money that your spending. Just don't let someone talk you into getting a GTX 1070 or something stupid like that. I wouldn't even put a GTX 1060 in that older Opti even with an updated PSU. An Opti with a Gen 4 i5 or i7, yes, but not the old Sandy Bridge processor and DDR3 Ram.
     
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    Clearly BL needs to change his user name to "Mr. Computer" or something...he's got the chops!
     
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    Thanks BLMG!! Excellent advice! Bummer you didn't see the original post before I ordered the GT1030.. I just needed "something" to put in it, and that was about all I could afford, but had I known I could of scrounged up a few more bucks for the DDR5 version.. So far I've got 350$ in the whole thing, monitor and all.. I'll look for a GTX 1050 "non" ti and put the $ toward a SSD.. Im already about out of space on the 250GB sata that it came with.. Thanks again!
     
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  19. BL Modding Group

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    Thanks mate.

    My wife's co-workers and our friends actually call me Mr Chips, LOL. As in computer, not wood or potato.

    Following in me dad's footsteps I'm and Electrical Engineer (he's an Electrical Design Engineer) and I also have a degree in Mechanical Engineering so I love to tinker. Especially with older stuff and seeing how far you can push it. It's even more fun when you push it too far and there's a big boom and parts are everywhere, then you go onto another one that you've made better and see if it happens again. Sipping a pint while waiting for an experiment to go wrong is fun times with me dad because we then work together to make it NOT fail in future experiments. Sometimes there's more pints downed then parts flying, LOL.

    My wife works in a big office and every now and then they upgrade their PC's and offer the older ones to the employees for anywhere between £30 -£50 ($40 - $65 US), most with the HDD's removed for privacy and security reasons so those are the ones I upgrade for people and also strip down and experiment with. Hard to pass up a cheap PC with fairly decent hardware, and with a card like the GTX 1050 (best bang, no pun intended, for the money really) you can build a really great budget PC that will run these e-sports games at 1080 with smooth framerates. Not to mention running older games on these systems with all the details at their highest. As mentioned above even graphically demanding games like PCars2 will run fairly decent at a lower resolution on a GTX 1050.
     
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  20. BL Modding Group

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    Me too mate, sorry.

    Thing is you can always sell the GT 1030 to someone wanting to make an HTPC and at least recoup some of the cost to put towards the 1050. The 1030 is still a capable card for that type of system, which I think is why Nvida made that gimped DDR4 version in the first place.

    You can't go wrong with the GTX 1050 in your Opti. The reason I suggested the smaller single fan is to allow more free air movement for the overall size of the case. Those mini towers when crammed with hardware are limited on incoming air movement. An 80mm fan can be mounted inside the case on the front panel to suck air in, while the rear case fan will blow the air out creating a nice airflow over the components. Even without a front fan the EVGA GTX 1050 cards I've put in these mini towers have never gone above 67 degrees or 40 percent on the fan speed with stock settings. Cool running little cards. I like the EVGA brand because or their warranty on video cards. It follows the Serial Number of the video card, not the original owner.

    Keep me informed.
     
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