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RacerXero84

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While you'd be right if it was a legit team, it's pretty clear to everyone and their mother that RWR is messing with the system. His cars are almost always in the back, in the way, or causing cautions. And he doesn't care.

Meanwhile, you have teams like 23XI, Kaulig, GMS, and potentially others that could easily put a charter to good use. So, in MY mind, that 25% docking is for the headache they cause, being essentially gatekeepers keeping others out that could/would be competitive and give us overall stronger fields.

But I digress, there's still people out there that defend RWR for some reason or another. Gaming the system just never sat well with me, especially when the result is essentially keeping out/making it difficult for other teams to step up.
 

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So, RWR might actually be stuck with charters as his asking price is too high.
And with Starcom selling their charter... well, there's yet an extra one floating around that was undoubtedly cheaper than RWR's 10mil.
Also Front Row may be cutting back or possibly for sale.
 

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I did not see Front Row Motorsports and StarCom Racing selling their charters. It's probably the same reason why Chip Ganassi sold his Cup Series operation to Justin Marks: The charters are too valuable to not sell. Plus, Rick Ware refusing to sell his four charters (or asking for too much money) means that the demand exceeds supply. I would like NASCAR to abolish the charter system, but that could lead to the return of "start-and-park" teams.
 

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I did not see Front Row Motorsports and StarCom Racing selling their charters. It's probably the same reason why Chip Ganassi sold his Cup Series operation to Justin Marks: The charters are too valuable to not sell. Plus, Rick Ware refusing to sell his four charters (or asking for too much money) means that the demand exceeds supply. I would like NASCAR to abolish the charter system, but that could lead to the return of "start-and-park" teams.
IMO I'd rather have the Start & Parks. Ateast they got off the damn track, while Rick Ware and co basically finish 8+ laps down every week, and just cause havoc.
 
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Rollo75

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No.
You could end 'start and park' by simply offering less in prizemoney.
If a 'start and park' is as I understand it, a team which has zero intention of running the entire race and is there simply to collect a paycheque, then don't pay one. Or else, make it contingent on actually finishing the race.
 

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You could end 'start and park' by simply offering less in prizemoney.
If a 'start and park' is as I understand it, a team which has zero intention of running the entire race and is there simply to collect a paycheque, then don't pay one. Or else, make it contingent on actually finishing the race.
Simple and effective, I like it
 

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You could end 'start and park' by simply offering less in prizemoney.
If a 'start and park' is as I understand it, a team which has zero intention of running the entire race and is there simply to collect a paycheque, then don't pay one. Or else, make it contingent on actually finishing the race.
Nascar's done that to an extent. Teams are required to run a percentage of the race at minimum. BUT they also eliminated the prize money for the open teams starting with this year. That's partly why MBM isn't still full time in Cup. Why run when you win nothing. And they aren't a S&P. Sure they're at the back but they try and run the whole race.
 

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I bet if Kyle Busch wasn't in the chase, instead of being fined $50,000 - He would have gotten a one race suspension. I'm not sure if NASCAR gave him a big enough fine/penalty.
 

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I bet if Kyle Busch wasn't in the chase, instead of being fined $50,000 - He would have gotten a one race suspension. I'm not sure if NASCAR gave him a big enough fine/penalty.
Like my dad said, "That's like fining me $5" lol
 

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Pfft... BS fine by Nascar.

It's a pitroad/pitwall opening... no cones should be there or spectators (even with hot passes).
 

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I wonder if moving the numbers forward will eventually lead to this? I think this actually looks better than the big numbers moved forward.

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Rollo75

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No.
Not unless NASCAR changes the regulations regarding the size of the number; which I doubt.

That would mean altering the design language of the series. It would also mean that spotters and crew chiefs (and spectators) wouldn't be able to read numbers any more.
 

Rollo75

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No.
If that's the front splitter... I hate it.

This will make cars even more aero dependent; which means that on the mile and a half ovals (which are constant turning - I am looking at you Kansas) that getting in behind someone will be practically useless.
I would want to see that front splitter abolised and the whole air dam raised to at least 6 inches above the road.

"Hello... is that Delta, I'd like to book a ticket. There's going to be some extra booing going on."
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BOO!
 

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If that's the front splitter... I hate it.

This will make cars even more aero dependent; which means that on the mile and a half ovals (which are constant turning - I am looking at you Kansas) that getting in behind someone will be practically useless.
I would want to see that front splitter abolised and the whole air dam raised to at least 6 inches above the road.

"Hello... is that Delta, I'd like to book a ticket. There's going to be some extra booing going on."
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BOO!
Daytona testing is over - be ready for a dull 500. I was not impressed/encouraged with the Drivers comments.
 

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I wonder if moving the numbers forward will eventually lead to this? I think this actually looks better than the big numbers moved forward.

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I honestly wish NASCAR would simply allow for numbers to be moved around as a rule, instead of enforcing it. That way, it would be up to the team on where to put the side numbers - normal, forward, backward, back panel, you name it.
I know it's probably set like that for the sake of easy identification, but I feel like it wouldn't be much of an issue.
It's been done in other series on a much more extreme scale and didn't really present many issues.
 
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Rollo75

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No.


NASCAR in its wisdom intends to hold the Busch Clash in the LA Coliseum.

Speaking as someone who has seen loads of ⅓ mile racing, ¼ racing always looks dinky and naff.

I think that this idea is nuttier than Nate Nutt's Peanut Slab with extra nuts. This has all the nuts, pea, wal, M12x1.25...

This is either going to be ace, or sink like a lead balloon. I hope that this works but LA is an incredibly fickle city.
 

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I am willing to give it a shot before I pass too much judgement. And to add to that, I'll even let them run it for a couple years to work out some kinks. It is a little odd to me to have a cup race in this fashion, but on the plus side NASCAR is rooted in short track racing, and so are it's drivers. On today's schedule the only true short track is Martinsville, and even that is a coliseum compared to most true short tracks. Plus, the field will probably never be over 25, and even then not likely to be over about 20 anyway, and it will be an exhibition race, just for fun and payout, not "CHAMPIONSHIP IMPLICATIONS".
 

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