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ddrap14

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Why #12?

Roger Penske has left.
Because I see zero inclination for any other number.
With that said, the #12 there was very arbitrary- the point was more that it looks likely Will will get the #17.

Added note: The #12 was originally brought in not by Roger but by Dean Fiore of all people.
 

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Tim Blanchard Racing now owns two Mustangs ex-Red 23. Tim Slade looks like the most likely to pony up to the do.

The ex-Red 23 REC has now been bought by "everyone's favourite whinger" Brad Jones.

Phil Munday is now out.

Supercars is talking about buying/leasing the IP directly from various manufacturers and then putting the bodies over the control chassis/control chassis with unbranded engine.
 

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16 confirmed slots. 8 left.
2 - Brad Jones Racing
2 - Tekno
2 - Matt Stone
1 - Kelly
1 - Tim Blanchard

I think that who Rick Kelly signs in that as yet unnumbered Mustang, is the one that triggers the game of Kerplunk.
 

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2 - Brad Jones Racing
2 - Tekno
2 - Matt Stone
1 - Kelly
1 - Tim Blanchard
Let's make some guesses.

BJR: Unchanged- changing would mean either sacking the owner's son or the owner of a REC.
Tekno: Pither stays, Alex Davison goes. Who replaces him? Does Fabs take the worst seat on the grid just to stay racing? Does Tom Randle chance it? Do they get a pay driver i.e. Matt Chahda or someone like him?
MSR: Unchanged- if Superlite doesn't happen again, Kostecki is kept and Goddard is sacked
Kelly: David Reynolds- while it would be funny if he ended without a seat, it won't happen
Erebus (by proxy): Brodie- this is obvious
TBR: Slade- this is also obvious
 

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Kostecki in Ambrose's NASCAR 2nd Div car (whatever it was called at the time) at Queensland Raceway: mid 1:04
Supercars Championship lap record at (James Courtney 2018) at Queensland Raceway: 1:09.659

NASCAR 2nd Div car is 5 seconds a lap faster than the Supercars.
 

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Let's make some guesses.

Tekno: Pither stays, Alex Davison goes. Who replaces him? Does Fabs take the worst seat on the grid just to stay racing?

As at this morning and unconfirmed, Fabian Coulthard has taken "the worst seat on the grid just to stay racing".

#19 - Fabian Coulthard??
#22 - Chris Pither??

Also rumours that numbers will swap between Team 18 and Tekno.
#18, #19 - Team 18.
#20, #22 - Tekno. (possibly to become #21)
 

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Also rumours that numbers will swap between Team 18 and Tekno.
I doubt this for only one reason: T18 have only had the 20 for one year.
Talking of number swaps, the chats in the BOSB Instagram account I run have been going off with talk that the #12 will become #11.

WHY
Yeah I know why they are changing, but that's... not the number I expected.
 

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WHY
Yeah I know why they are changing, but that's... not the number I expected.

In 1984, Dick Johnson bought the two Fox Body Mustangs from Zakspeed and the 302 Windsor engines from Team Roush Protofab.
The Roush Engines were rubbish; so he hired an ex-HDT driver but pretty handy engineer called Larry Perkins.

Perkins basically built a new set of engines for Johnson and they could never really make the V8 produce anything like enough power to beat the Jaguars; nor complete with enough rubber on the road to beat the BMWs on the goat tracks like Amaroo, Oran, Winton, or Wanneroo.

Maybe it's an allusion to that?
 

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If Betty lets Dave Reynolds go because he's having a barney with Barry Ryan, then the only good seat left is at Kelly Racing.

Who is left to fill Reynolds' ex-seat? There's no-one who immediately springs to mind. unless Brodie Kostecki slots in.
 

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If Betty lets Dave Reynolds go because he's having a barney with Barry Ryan, then the only good seat left is at Kelly Racing.

Who is left to fill Reynolds' ex-seat? There's no-one who immediately springs to mind. unless Brodie Kostecki slots in.
The rumour mill has been saying both of those things for weeks, *if* he breaks his contract.

Betty would be much smarter to sack Barry Ryan.

In other news, Team Cooldrive have been made official as they've got Brendan Hogan from Tickford to lead the team
 

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Screenshot 2020-12-17 214226.jpg

Between Aaron Noonan at V8 Sleuth, Andrew van Leeuwen from Motorsport.com, and Ludo Lacroix, I think that the #11 rumour is looking pretty sharp.
 
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What are the differences between these things and North american Stockcars besides the branding?
 

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In Australia once upon a time, touring car racing was modified production racing. Then from 1973-1984 it became modified production racing according to Group C (FIA 3C) rules. Then from 1985-1992 international Group A rules were adopted; after which time the two big manufacturers of Holden (GM) and Ford had a hissy fit and whinged their way to Group 3A regulations - which are still in use (sort of)

Group 3A cars are run according to a 5-Litre V8 formula; with central dimensions being held from the legacy piece of the Ford Falcon AU - FGX.
The wheel base through the centre of the locknuts is 110.0 inches long and 74 inches wide (which was actually still based upon the Ford Falcon XK from 1960).

The engines currently in use are legacy pieces from when the current iteration of the category was drawn up. Fords run a 302 Windsor while the Holdens which did run a Holden 305 engine (after previously running a Holden 308 engine in Group C), now run an Aurora built Chevy 305 engine, GM (part number 10243869) for Sprint Car Spec Racing.
They run a control 6-speed Xtrac sequential gearbox and a spool drive (ie, no differential - just a crownwheel and end gear); which I think qualifies as a dead rear axle (?).

From 2007 the Commodore ceased to be a production shell as the VE was both too wide and too long; ZB was too narrow and too long; and from 2019 S550 Mustang is too low, too short and too narrow.

For Gen-3 they are talking about completely bespoke bits of kit.
 
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pharaoh

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In Australia once upon a time, touring car racing was modified production racing. Then from 1973-1984 it became modified production racing according to Group C (FIA 3C) rules. Then from 1985-1992 international Group A rules were adopted; after which time the two big manufacturers of Holden (GM) and Ford had a hissy fit and whinged their way to Group 3A regulations - which are still in use (sort of)

Group 3A cars are run according to a 5-Litre V8 formula; with central dimensions being held from the legacy piece of the Ford Falcon AU - FGX.
The wheel base through the centre of the locknuts is 110.0 inches long and 74 inches wide (which was actually still based upon the Ford Falcon XK from 1960).

The engines currently in use are legacy pieces from when the current iteration of the category was drawn up. Fords run a 302 Windsor while the Holdens which did run a Holden 305 engine (after previously running a Holden 308 engine in Group C), now run an Aurora built Chevy 305 engine, GM (part number 10243869) for Sprint Car Spec Racing.
They run a control 6-speed Xtrac sequential gearbox and a spool drive (ie, no differential - just a crownwheel and end gear); which I think qualifies as a dead rear axle (?).

From 2007 the Commodore ceased to be a production shell as the VE was both too wide and too long; ZB was too narrow and too long; and from 2019 S550 Mustang is too low, too short and too narrow.

For Gen-3 they are talking about completely bespoke bits of kit.
hmm interesting
 

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He was SEN this morning hinting that he wanted to do the Bathurst 12 Hour and get other seat time before stepping back into co-driving for Whincup at the 1000.
There are no other co-driver events slated for 2021.
 

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